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Anyone hear about a timeframe for the N6 release?

January 27, 2013
posted by  Woodchippz


Has Anyone heard a timeframe for the N6 release.  I can't find anything from searching the Internet.  

 

Last fall when I was picking out my equipment for my first ci, the Audi explained insurance and general upgrade approval process, etc.  she mentioned the N6 would be coming out within a year. I am approved for bilateral and thinking of doing it in march,  but also thought maybe I would wait a couple months to see if they release an upgrade.  I can't find the upgrade topic anywhere on the web, even checked the FDA.  I figured the community would be the best place to inquire.  

 

Thank you

Tricia 

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Laura

January 29, 2013

Here is a link to the only thing I could find. Note the 01/03/2013 decision date. No other information is listed about the new device. http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfpma/pma.cfm?id=24430
 
CelticLass

January 29, 2013

Good link Laura - from the hyperlinks it seems like they are still doing dynamic testing for materials durability. I found an FDA link to a particular scientist and will cheat a little and ask my hubby to contact him so we get the tech scoop. Last modification report isn't available yet but was due at the end of November.
 
SharonC Cochlear Volunteer- Ambassador

January 29, 2013

It seems to me when we started hearing rumors about the N5 it was about 4 months later it was approved. So when we stsrt hearing rumors, solid rumors then it will probably only be a few months so it's your call. I had the Freedom implanted and was going to have the other implanted Freedom but the rumors were getting close from what the Dr. Office was telling me so I decided to wait only a couple months. Since you have the one and seem to be doing well with it won't hurt to wait a couple months but if the time gets longer than that you don't want to miss the bilateral experience. i would want to see if I heard anymore before making the final decision have you asked your Dr.? they know if it is getting close. ~SharonC~
 
Vernice

January 29, 2013

Usually,they announce it at the Cochlear Celebration and then in April, they are available to people for upgrades or surgery. I would think that since they are keeping it close to the chest that they are waiting for the Celebration to announce it. I am looking forward to seeing the new processor.
 
SharonC Cochlear Volunteer- Ambassador

January 29, 2013

You are probably right on the Money Vernice. ~SharonC~
 
Laura

January 29, 2013

In that case, those who are able to go to Cochlear Celebration, please tell the rest of us what they announce! Unfortunately I won't be able to go. :(
 
Blues2

January 29, 2013

Same here. But glad for those who can go. Hope everyone has a good time..........................stay cool
 
Woodchippz

January 29, 2013

Thank you for the link and other ideas. I hope they announce it at the celebration. Unfortunately we won't be going. I think I will hold on setting my surgery date.
 
Blues2

January 29, 2013

by the way woodchippz here is a link you may be interested in: hearinglosscure.stanford.edu/ Good info for the future.............stay cool
 
2CI Ears--Connie J. Cochlear Volunteer Ambassador

January 31, 2013

I think the link Laura gave is for a programming upgrade. Look at the bottom of the info. Custom sound is the programming software. Now that is not to say that upgrading the software is not the first step to a new processor. As for announcing at Celebration that sounds like a great idea but I don't remember that happening in the past. The only Celebration that it could have happened at was the one in Anaheim 4 years ago with the N5 (someone will refresh my memory if it was announced there???).
 
Woodchippz

February 02, 2013

My Audi told me they were doing both an upgrade to the programming software and a processor upgrade. She called the new processor the N6. A different Audi told me the same thing last August when I picked out my equipment. Regarding the programming software upgrade, she said they can push that out to our processors and expects it to be available for the N5. She also thinks they will more likely announce this at a physicians event, not a patient event. I guess time will tell. I like my N5!
 
CelticLass

February 02, 2013

Hey - thanks for the update. Do I assume it is a new device, the N6 - not just the software (which can be uploaded to the Freedom, N5 and 1422)? That means a different array on the inside. The last 3 devices have had the capability to upgrade but there is a huge difference (to me) in the interface with the internal device. It's like upgrading your computer. I have an older one with all the latest software upgrades I use - easy to download and install. So I can do anything that you can on a new one ... but even with more RAM it's not like having the newest and best computer with options in the hardware. Just curious.
 
Stuart N - Cochlear Ambassador

February 02, 2013

The N5 was released on September 8, 2009. I remember the date well because I was implanted with the Freedom on July, 9, 2009. I was frustrated but all ended well, I was able to upgrade in November 2009.
 
Shari45

February 02, 2013

I don't remember them introducing a new processor at the 2011 Celebration...so it's probably time at this next one! Also, AB just came out with theirs!
 
CelticLass

February 02, 2013

Still have the question - just the processor/software upgrade or an entirely new device?? Anyone?
 
2CI Ears--Connie J. Cochlear Volunteer Ambassador

February 02, 2013

Ok let me see if I can help. First I am not an employee of Cochlear nor do I have any inside information regarding this upgrade—what I am writing I believe to be correct but please if someone does not think so feel free to correct me (I know Cochlear employees read/monitor this community) . I don’t claim to be an expert but I am looking forward to this upgrade as much as any of you as I have 6 & 7 year old processors with no backup and am patiently (most of the time) waiting for it. This link: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfpma/pma.cfm?id=24430 I believe is for software only. It may be a precursor to a new processor but as it is presented it appears to be a software upgrade only. If you look at the history of Cochlear’s FDA approvals you will find this approval in August of 2009: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfpma/pma.cfm?id=8931 It states that it is for: “Approval for the following new components of the cochlear implant system: cp810 sound processor, cr110 remote assistant, custom sound 3. 0 programming software.” I think this is the approval for the N5 with the remote and the software to program it-- note 3.0 custom sound programming software. The first link above which was approved in early January of this year is for 3.3 custom sound programming software. Now that is not to say that all this is not a precursor to a new processor or it could even kind of discourage one from thinking that a new one is coming out because why upgrade the software for the N5—I’ll leave that to your imagination. I am not sure what Sonny is asking about just a processor/software upgrade vs an entirely new device. If entirely new device you mean the internal that may or may not happen. In August of 2009 there was also another approval: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfpma/pma.cfm?id=8666 It was for: “Approval for the ci512 and ci513 cochlear implants. The ci512 and ci513 implants represent modifications to the nucleus freedom cochlear implant (also called the ci24re).” aka the internal part. The ci512 and ci513 were the two that were recalled and have not been implanted since September 2011. It appears as though when the N5 came out they both were approved at the same time, however, it was two separate approvals. It would be no surprise if a new internal device was approved as well. One thing to remember is just because a new internal device is approved that does not mean that there is a new computer chip in the device. I am almost certain that the Freedom and N5 have the same computer chip (I could be wrong so please say so if you know). In fact if you read above it says the ci512 & ci513 “represent modifications to the nucleus freedom cochlear implant” (internal part). I have always heard that the computer chips that are in the internal part have more capacity than we are actually using—thus the backwards compatible feature when a new processor comes out. The internals are limited by the external and the software. If /when the N6 (assuming that is the name) comes out I can’t imagine that it would not be immediately backwards compatible with both the N5 internals and the Freedom internal. At this point there are way more Freedom internal users than N5 considering the fact that the N5 internal was only on the market for about two years. Again this is just my opinion/information—I have no inside info from Cochlear. If I am wrong I am sorry. As for announcing a new device I am betting it will not happen but I guess we will know in two weeks. I hope I lose this bet. Connie
 
CelticLass

February 02, 2013

Yes Connie my question concerned an entirely new device internal with new processor and upgraded software which would in effect would become the standard. I am aware that the software can be upgraded once it is available but my question did target a new device, not just new components. Given the short life of the N5 internal before failures began I am sure Cochlear is being especially cautious in bringing the next generation implant to market.
 
SharonC Cochlear Volunteer- Ambassador

February 03, 2013

Wow Connie loaded with information thank you so much. Sunny yes they are being cautious but you can bet your bottom dollar there is a "New Horizon" ~SharonC~
 
Woodchippz

April 08, 2013

Well, I guess I should have waited a couple of months before I had the 2nd surgery... Which is what I was thinking about doing back in January. I will miss the trade in cut off by 4 days!! According to the announcement you need to be implanted on or after 4/1, I was implanted on 3/27. Not activated yet, still healing, very disappointed..... I really wanted the N6, I bet the sound quality is a lot better and it's probably smaller too. I should stop dreaming about awesome hearing and be happy I can hear birds again, and be happy I get 70%-80% on my tests.
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